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		<title>By: The Unofficial FutureRuby Guide to Toronto, Part 2: The FutureRuby Venues — The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Unofficial FutureRuby Guide to Toronto, Part 2: The FutureRuby Venues — The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Accordion Guy&#8217;s (RubyFringe) Toronto Guides &#171; FutureRuby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Accordion Guy&#8217;s (RubyFringe) Toronto Guides &#171; FutureRuby</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: &#187; RubyFringe Guide: The Lay of the Land, Part 2 &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; RubyFringe Guide: The Lay of the Land, Part 2 &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; RubyFringe Guide: Active Surplus, a.k.a. Hardware Nerdvana &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; RubyFringe Guide: Active Surplus, a.k.a. Hardware Nerdvana &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; RubyFringe Guide: FAILCamp (Friday, July 18 - 4 to 7 p.m. at The Rhino) &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; RubyFringe Guide: FAILCamp (Friday, July 18 - 4 to 7 p.m. at The Rhino) &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: &#187; RubyFringe Guide: Best Damn Cookie in Town &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; RubyFringe Guide: The Lay of the Land, Part 1 &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; RubyFringe Guide: The Lay of the Land, Part 1 &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: &#187; Boozin&#8217; in Accordion City (Joey’s Unofficial RubyFringe Guide to Toronto) &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.joeydevilla.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-14375</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Boozin&#8217; in Accordion City (Joey’s Unofficial RubyFringe Guide to Toronto) &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kat f.</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat f.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if i had a cameraphone and some ninja-stealth it might be interesting to go around to some of my local convenience stores and see how common the post-it situation is...</description>
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		<title>By: Global Nerdy &#124; Getting from the Airport to the Hotel (Joey’s Unofficial RubyFringe Guide to Toronto)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Nerdy &#124; Getting from the Airport to the Hotel (Joey’s Unofficial RubyFringe Guide to Toronto)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] far, I&#8217;ve published one article: Where Did All the Cigarettes Go?, in which I explained to visiting smokers that you can buy cigarettes in stores here; they&#8217;re [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Getting from the Airport to the Hotel (Joey’s Unofficial RubyFringe Guide to Toronto) &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Getting from the Airport to the Hotel (Joey’s Unofficial RubyFringe Guide to Toronto) &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chiamattt</title>
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		<dc:creator>chiamattt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I smoke and I think most, if not all &#039;tobacco-related legislation&#039; is USELESS. Let the market decide. McDonald&#039;s (not the best example, I know) has been smoke free for how long? Was it because of a law? No. It was because McDonald&#039;s is a &quot;family&quot; restaurant. The government (both federal and provincial) like to talk about the &quot;cost&quot; of smoking on the health care industry, and the &quot;public&quot; like to make smokers feel guilty for smoking. Why?

I am fine not smoking in an establishment that DECIDES to be non-smoking, just like I am fine not smoking at a friends house who isn&#039;t a smoker. I&#039;m even fine not smoking on an airplane. 

But I am not fine with the fact that I can&#039;t open a small business (a small bar or something) which allows smoking inside. Adults can decide if they want to enter an establishment which allows smoking. If you don&#039;t like Diva House, do you go to a club that plays Diva House? No.

In all honesty, it&#039;ll be a sad day when there are no smokers, because all you non-smokers are going to have to pay a shit load more on your taxes.

For all of you who love the Canadian health care system and love to rail against smokers and the tobacco industry, chew on this:

&quot;This naked money grab is justified by one central myth: that the industry gets a free ride on public health care. The facts say otherwise. A 2000 study estimated that Canada’s direct health care costs due to tobacco are about $2.68 billion a year. A similar 1991 federal government study reached roughly the same conclusion. By comparison, the federal and provincial governments reaped about $7.69 billion in tobacco taxes last year, up 57 per cent from a decade earlier. Some free ride. If anything, smokers help subsidize health care for the rest of us.&quot;

With all the &quot;health care is broke&quot; bullshit going around, it certainly isn&#039;t smokers who are stressing the system. 

ugh, I ranted on this more at:
http://smokehard.com/2008/smoking-a-global-update/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I smoke and I think most, if not all &#8216;tobacco-related legislation&#8217; is USELESS. Let the market decide. McDonald&#8217;s (not the best example, I know) has been smoke free for how long? Was it because of a law? No. It was because McDonald&#8217;s is a &#8220;family&#8221; restaurant. The government (both federal and provincial) like to talk about the &#8220;cost&#8221; of smoking on the health care industry, and the &#8220;public&#8221; like to make smokers feel guilty for smoking. Why?</p>
<p>I am fine not smoking in an establishment that DECIDES to be non-smoking, just like I am fine not smoking at a friends house who isn&#8217;t a smoker. I&#8217;m even fine not smoking on an airplane. </p>
<p>But I am not fine with the fact that I can&#8217;t open a small business (a small bar or something) which allows smoking inside. Adults can decide if they want to enter an establishment which allows smoking. If you don&#8217;t like Diva House, do you go to a club that plays Diva House? No.</p>
<p>In all honesty, it&#8217;ll be a sad day when there are no smokers, because all you non-smokers are going to have to pay a shit load more on your taxes.</p>
<p>For all of you who love the Canadian health care system and love to rail against smokers and the tobacco industry, chew on this:</p>
<p>&#8220;This naked money grab is justified by one central myth: that the industry gets a free ride on public health care. The facts say otherwise. A 2000 study estimated that Canada’s direct health care costs due to tobacco are about $2.68 billion a year. A similar 1991 federal government study reached roughly the same conclusion. By comparison, the federal and provincial governments reaped about $7.69 billion in tobacco taxes last year, up 57 per cent from a decade earlier. Some free ride. If anything, smokers help subsidize health care for the rest of us.&#8221;</p>
<p>With all the &#8220;health care is broke&#8221; bullshit going around, it certainly isn&#8217;t smokers who are stressing the system. </p>
<p>ugh, I ranted on this more at:<br />
<a href="http://smokehard.com/2008/smoking-a-global-update/" rel="nofollow">http://smokehard.com/2008/smoking-a-global-update/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luke Francl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Francl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for doing this, Joey! 

This one isn&#039;t too useful to me since I don&#039;t smoke but it is pretty interesting. I dig the creepy photo warnings. I took a picture of the huge SMOKING KILLS warnings in the UK (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lukefrancl/745872183/) but this is a whole new level.

Looking forward to future installments...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for doing this, Joey! </p>
<p>This one isn&#8217;t too useful to me since I don&#8217;t smoke but it is pretty interesting. I dig the creepy photo warnings. I took a picture of the huge SMOKING KILLS warnings in the UK (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/lukefrancl/745872183/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/lukefrancl/745872183/</a>) but this is a whole new level.</p>
<p>Looking forward to future installments&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joey deVilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey deVilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@kat f.:&lt;/strong&gt; That&#039;s one of the usability problems caused by these cabinets: the customer can&#039;t see the cigarettes, &lt;em&gt;but neither can the vendor!&lt;/em&gt; Hence the workaround with the Post-Its, which technically undoes what the law is trying to do. I suppose a more compliant way of making the vendor&#039;s life easier might be to rearrange the cigarettes so that the brands are in alphabetical order.

The use of Post-Its should be used as a lesson for product designers: if you make your products hard to use, your users will invent solutions that may end up running counter to the desired effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@kat f.:</strong> That&#8217;s one of the usability problems caused by these cabinets: the customer can&#8217;t see the cigarettes, <em>but neither can the vendor!</em> Hence the workaround with the Post-Its, which technically undoes what the law is trying to do. I suppose a more compliant way of making the vendor&#8217;s life easier might be to rearrange the cigarettes so that the brands are in alphabetical order.</p>
<p>The use of Post-Its should be used as a lesson for product designers: if you make your products hard to use, your users will invent solutions that may end up running counter to the desired effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t smoke, but I noticed last week that the vendors in the PATH had started covering the cigs up with white featureless coverings.  I thought they were some kind of half-assed anti-theft measure.</description>
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		<title>By: kat f.</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat f.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s interesting, because the convenience store that i frequent has the cabinet, but it is covered in post-its, denoting what&#039;s underneath the doors. 
hmm.</description>
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hmm.</p>
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