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	<title>Comments on: Toronto, The High-Tech Hub: A Lesson from the Sex Pistols</title>
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		<title>By: Creative Class &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Sex Pistols and Economic Development - Creative Class</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creative Class &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Sex Pistols and Economic Development - Creative Class</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I actually got share the stage with Tony Wilson and discuss creativity and economic development. Toronto&#8217;s Accordion Guy finds useful and important lessons in the organically innovative nature of that gathering compared [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I actually got share the stage with Tony Wilson and discuss creativity and economic development. Toronto&#8217;s Accordion Guy finds useful and important lessons in the organically innovative nature of that gathering compared [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Healthy Living &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Isn&#8217;t this what Toronto Tech Week ought to be promoting?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Healthy Living &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Isn&#8217;t this what Toronto Tech Week ought to be promoting?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 12:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] really hard to suspend judgement of the Toronto Tech Week initiative, but I&#8217;m afraid that Joey, David Crow, Mark and others may be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] really hard to suspend judgement of the Toronto Tech Week initiative, but I&#8217;m afraid that Joey, David Crow, Mark and others may be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: countably infinite &#187; Meeting with TransLink: Continuing the Community Conversation?</title>
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		<dc:creator>countably infinite &#187; Meeting with TransLink: Continuing the Community Conversation?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The truth is, I am one person - and nothing I&#8217;ve written about today is new in comparison to the range of topics discussed in the Vancouver Transit Camp wiki. I believe the staff when they say they are committed to wanting to participate in a meaningful, ongoing conversation with the community, and who want to know how Transit Camp can be a tool in starting that. I think they&#8217;ll need a bit of help through the first humps in learning what this conversation means for their own internal processes, for their corporate self-identity, and for their relationship with the public. I think the lesson that needs to be learned is that we, as members of the community, are all learning what the potential for this dialogue is. I think facilitating meaningful online dialogue is difficult, but not impossible, just as offline dialogue can be difficult. I think we all have a stake in seeing this be successful and a good process, and to make it be known outloud if it turns out that it isn&#8217;t. (As an aside, the Camp community should not be viewed as a cheerful, uncritical bunch. The Toronto folks are demonstrating their willingness to call bullshit when they see it, very creatively at times.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The truth is, I am one person &#8211; and nothing I&#8217;ve written about today is new in comparison to the range of topics discussed in the Vancouver Transit Camp wiki. I believe the staff when they say they are committed to wanting to participate in a meaningful, ongoing conversation with the community, and who want to know how Transit Camp can be a tool in starting that. I think they&#8217;ll need a bit of help through the first humps in learning what this conversation means for their own internal processes, for their corporate self-identity, and for their relationship with the public. I think the lesson that needs to be learned is that we, as members of the community, are all learning what the potential for this dialogue is. I think facilitating meaningful online dialogue is difficult, but not impossible, just as offline dialogue can be difficult. I think we all have a stake in seeing this be successful and a good process, and to make it be known outloud if it turns out that it isn&#8217;t. (As an aside, the Camp community should not be viewed as a cheerful, uncritical bunch. The Toronto folks are demonstrating their willingness to call bullshit when they see it, very creatively at times.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Purves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Purves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to remember thought that some democampers actually suggested something like tech week to the city and to the (almost entirely budgetless ICT development policyists). We kindof asked for it.

The vision was for something like CeBIT in Toronto.

or something like SXSW Interactive in Toronto.

I&#039;m just not sure thats what we got.

TTW was supposed to be bottom up, anyone in theory could organize an event under the umbrella.

I ran an EnterpriseCamp last year, in the end it was pretty successful, though the venue  choice was expensive and not ideal, and I got no sponsorship from the city, and a little PR from a listing on the TTW website. I had to put a relatively high price on tickets, and still make up the rest from my own pocket.

City hall didn&#039;t organize TTW last year. In fact they hardly did anything at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to remember thought that some democampers actually suggested something like tech week to the city and to the (almost entirely budgetless ICT development policyists). We kindof asked for it.</p>
<p>The vision was for something like CeBIT in Toronto.</p>
<p>or something like SXSW Interactive in Toronto.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just not sure thats what we got.</p>
<p>TTW was supposed to be bottom up, anyone in theory could organize an event under the umbrella.</p>
<p>I ran an EnterpriseCamp last year, in the end it was pretty successful, though the venue  choice was expensive and not ideal, and I got no sponsorship from the city, and a little PR from a listing on the TTW website. I had to put a relatively high price on tickets, and still make up the rest from my own pocket.</p>
<p>City hall didn&#8217;t organize TTW last year. In fact they hardly did anything at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your post!  ACTION and Never Mind the Bullocks!  :-)

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post!  ACTION and Never Mind the Bullocks!  <img src='http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Joey deVilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey deVilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@David Crow:&lt;/strong&gt; Probably! The reseblances, both in your roles and psychosexually, are uncanny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@David Crow:</strong> Probably! The reseblances, both in your roles and psychosexually, are uncanny!</p>
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		<title>By: David Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does that make me Malcolm McLaren?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does that make me Malcolm McLaren?</p>
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