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		<title>By: Praça da República &#187; Onde está a Silicon Valley alentejana?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Praça da República &#187; Onde está a Silicon Valley alentejana?</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: &#187; Ideas to Steal from Silicon Valley and Seattle &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Ideas to Steal from Silicon Valley and Seattle &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Global Nerdy &#124; Ideas to Steal from Silicon Valley and Seattle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Nerdy &#124; Ideas to Steal from Silicon Valley and Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one sector that Toronto seems to have a number of early stage companies that are going through some high growth:   DATA CENTER AUTOMATION software.

  At a high level this is software that helps automate servers in order to reduce the amount of administration required.

  Toronto was put on the map as a leader in this space back in 2003 when IBM purchased Think Dynamics , rumoured to have been in the $50M range.  Think was a company with virtually no revenue, but very cool technology.

  Here are some other mid/early stage companies in this space in the Toronto region:

  Platform Computing (www.platform.com)

  Platespin (http://www.platespin.com/)

  Opalis (http://www.opalis.com/)

  Cirba (www.cirba.com)

  Avokia (http://www.avokia.com/)

  Xkoto (http://www.xkoto.com/)

  michael kane

  kane_mr@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one sector that Toronto seems to have a number of early stage companies that are going through some high growth:   DATA CENTER AUTOMATION software.</p>
<p>  At a high level this is software that helps automate servers in order to reduce the amount of administration required.</p>
<p>  Toronto was put on the map as a leader in this space back in 2003 when IBM purchased Think Dynamics , rumoured to have been in the $50M range.  Think was a company with virtually no revenue, but very cool technology.</p>
<p>  Here are some other mid/early stage companies in this space in the Toronto region:</p>
<p>  Platform Computing (www.platform.com)</p>
<p>  Platespin (<a href="http://www.platespin.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.platespin.com/</a>)</p>
<p>  Opalis (<a href="http://www.opalis.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.opalis.com/</a>)</p>
<p>  Cirba (www.cirba.com)</p>
<p>  Avokia (<a href="http://www.avokia.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.avokia.com/</a>)</p>
<p>  Xkoto (<a href="http://www.xkoto.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.xkoto.com/</a>)</p>
<p>  michael kane</p>
<p>  <a href="mailto:kane_mr@yahoo.com">kane_mr@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Until Toronto&#039;s hype machine finds the right spark&quot;?  Dude, I lived in Toronto for 10 years before moving to Berkeley.  Trust me, no hype machine could fool anyone into thinking they were anything close to the same.

  Toronto, liberal.  Hmmm, I remember thinking how strangely uptight it was that everything was closed on Sunday, and how you couldn&#039;t buy beer in corner stores like in Newfoundland.  Liberal maybe, but with a Puritan sensibility.  &quot;We&#039;re world-class because our commutes are the longest, we have such long lines for concerts, etc.&quot;  I always got the vibe that the way to success in Toronto was to endure the most discomfort.

  The other thing is the sprawl.  Yes, in Toronto you can shop on funky Bloor St. West or Queen St. West.  Then head 45 minutes east or west to visit a friend in Scarborough or Missassauga.  Later go to dinner in some hole-in-the-wall restaurant in Etobicoke or North York.  Notice you spent practically the whole day in your car, and practically speaking never left Toronto.  In Berkeley, you can go from the marina to the shopping district to funky music clubs to the gourmet ghetto (restaurant row) to the university campus in 10 minutes.  In Silicon Valley, every highway stop or two is its own little community with its own personality and reasons to go there.  I never went to Etobicoke for a restaurant or Scarborough for a concert or Mississauga for shopping in 10 years in Toronto.  But in the Bay Area I go to concerts in Mountain View, shopping in Palo Alto, visit friends in Burlingame, sightseeing in Sausalito, etc.  Even Foster City has a great bike path along the bay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Until Toronto&#8217;s hype machine finds the right spark&#8221;?  Dude, I lived in Toronto for 10 years before moving to Berkeley.  Trust me, no hype machine could fool anyone into thinking they were anything close to the same.</p>
<p>  Toronto, liberal.  Hmmm, I remember thinking how strangely uptight it was that everything was closed on Sunday, and how you couldn&#8217;t buy beer in corner stores like in Newfoundland.  Liberal maybe, but with a Puritan sensibility.  &#8220;We&#8217;re world-class because our commutes are the longest, we have such long lines for concerts, etc.&#8221;  I always got the vibe that the way to success in Toronto was to endure the most discomfort.</p>
<p>  The other thing is the sprawl.  Yes, in Toronto you can shop on funky Bloor St. West or Queen St. West.  Then head 45 minutes east or west to visit a friend in Scarborough or Missassauga.  Later go to dinner in some hole-in-the-wall restaurant in Etobicoke or North York.  Notice you spent practically the whole day in your car, and practically speaking never left Toronto.  In Berkeley, you can go from the marina to the shopping district to funky music clubs to the gourmet ghetto (restaurant row) to the university campus in 10 minutes.  In Silicon Valley, every highway stop or two is its own little community with its own personality and reasons to go there.  I never went to Etobicoke for a restaurant or Scarborough for a concert or Mississauga for shopping in 10 years in Toronto.  But in the Bay Area I go to concerts in Mountain View, shopping in Palo Alto, visit friends in Burlingame, sightseeing in Sausalito, etc.  Even Foster City has a great bike path along the bay.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 03:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually in Silicon Valley right now for my summer research internship, and I can see why the Bay area, especially Palo Alto, Menlo Park and Mountain View are the tech hubs in Silicon Valley.  The environment and buildings are easily accessible, in fact, it&#039;s so easy to get to them, it&#039;s not like in Toronto where it&#039;s so crowded and buildings are everywhere.  And of course, there&#039;s Stanford.  I think Toronto can become a Silicon Valley, we just need to revamp U of T as a university in computer science and engineering that can compete with the MITs, Stanfords, and Berekleys.  That means, the government needs to give more money for universities for funding, and/or companies need to provide money.  There also needs to be tax cuts and entrepreneurship to spur people to make inventions and start companies.  That is what Waterloo is doing with their Centre of Innovation and UW has their entrepreneurship program.

  And of course, like someone said before, people need to take risks, stop with the bureaucracy and start building and making stuff.  And not be afraid to make mistakes.  The GTA and Waterloo region are actually considered Silicon Valley North, so there is some resemblance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually in Silicon Valley right now for my summer research internship, and I can see why the Bay area, especially Palo Alto, Menlo Park and Mountain View are the tech hubs in Silicon Valley.  The environment and buildings are easily accessible, in fact, it&#8217;s so easy to get to them, it&#8217;s not like in Toronto where it&#8217;s so crowded and buildings are everywhere.  And of course, there&#8217;s Stanford.  I think Toronto can become a Silicon Valley, we just need to revamp U of T as a university in computer science and engineering that can compete with the MITs, Stanfords, and Berekleys.  That means, the government needs to give more money for universities for funding, and/or companies need to provide money.  There also needs to be tax cuts and entrepreneurship to spur people to make inventions and start companies.  That is what Waterloo is doing with their Centre of Innovation and UW has their entrepreneurship program.</p>
<p>  And of course, like someone said before, people need to take risks, stop with the bureaucracy and start building and making stuff.  And not be afraid to make mistakes.  The GTA and Waterloo region are actually considered Silicon Valley North, so there is some resemblance.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 10:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, until Toronto starts coming up with products that are more innovative, I can&#039;t see how Toronto will ever come close to even considering comparison. There are not enough entrepreneurs and investment from what I can see in Toronto to get this going.  I might be out of the loop, but I&#039;m not really currently aware of any contending or ramping up Toronto start-ups that are generating buzz.

  I&#039;m also not sure where being like Silicon Valley surrounds only web publishing, which this topic seems to focus on. Silicon Valley is successful because they have great software companies of many varieties, and hardware companies to complement it. Cranking code and blogging isn&#039;t going to bring this city up to par.

  And while all of the fuss in Toronto about comparing to US cities? Hollywood North? The new Silicon Valley? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, until Toronto starts coming up with products that are more innovative, I can&#8217;t see how Toronto will ever come close to even considering comparison. There are not enough entrepreneurs and investment from what I can see in Toronto to get this going.  I might be out of the loop, but I&#8217;m not really currently aware of any contending or ramping up Toronto start-ups that are generating buzz.</p>
<p>  I&#8217;m also not sure where being like Silicon Valley surrounds only web publishing, which this topic seems to focus on. Silicon Valley is successful because they have great software companies of many varieties, and hardware companies to complement it. Cranking code and blogging isn&#8217;t going to bring this city up to par.</p>
<p>  And while all of the fuss in Toronto about comparing to US cities? Hollywood North? The new Silicon Valley? <img src='http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 18:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toronto more or less has the right ingredients as Paul G laid out, but the one major missing piece (besides, potentially, cost of living) is the perception of Toronto as a hip, liberal place to be.  People who live here already know the score, but I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s a meme that&#039;s escaped the GTA boundaries.  Canada is already seen as a relatively conservative, let&#039;s-not-rock-the-boat kind of country, even if socially left of centre.

  But I&#039;d wager Montreal and Vancouver are probably seen as more free-spirited than Toronto.  All our other attributes make us a serious contender, but until Toronto&#039;s hype machine finds the right spark, we&#039;ll continue to remain a wannabe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toronto more or less has the right ingredients as Paul G laid out, but the one major missing piece (besides, potentially, cost of living) is the perception of Toronto as a hip, liberal place to be.  People who live here already know the score, but I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s a meme that&#8217;s escaped the GTA boundaries.  Canada is already seen as a relatively conservative, let&#8217;s-not-rock-the-boat kind of country, even if socially left of centre.</p>
<p>  But I&#8217;d wager Montreal and Vancouver are probably seen as more free-spirited than Toronto.  All our other attributes make us a serious contender, but until Toronto&#8217;s hype machine finds the right spark, we&#8217;ll continue to remain a wannabe.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 13:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harvard? Spin-offs? Stanford, MIT, Berkley maybe. Harvard, not so much. The last major company to come out of Harvard was that guy who dropped out to start a company that made BASIC interpreters IIRC.

  Anyway, yes, U of T is nowhere near those universities. The proper comparison would be Waterloo, which is why there are so many start-ups there. Now all we need to do is get more to go public (like RIM and OpenText) and fewer to take the buy-out exit strategy (that company Google bought recently, the one Adobe bought, the company that Sybase bought - obviously memorable companies in their own right).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvard? Spin-offs? Stanford, MIT, Berkley maybe. Harvard, not so much. The last major company to come out of Harvard was that guy who dropped out to start a company that made BASIC interpreters IIRC.</p>
<p>  Anyway, yes, U of T is nowhere near those universities. The proper comparison would be Waterloo, which is why there are so many start-ups there. Now all we need to do is get more to go public (like RIM and OpenText) and fewer to take the buy-out exit strategy (that company Google bought recently, the one Adobe bought, the company that Sybase bought &#8211; obviously memorable companies in their own right).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 01:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You also need people that take risks, which is definitely not a Canadian trait. There is the telltale #1 tactic of talking to the government among others. Folks in the valley or Boston don&#039;t talk to the government - they just do stuff.

  Toronto may be #3 in people &quot;working in information and communications&quot;, which amazes me, but that isn&#039;t the number of people who start and work in startups. That requires a very different mentality. As for world class universities, you are comparing the U of T to Stanford, MIT, and Harvard.

  You need to change the fundamental attitudes of people to make them into entrepreneurs rather than workers, and then change the tax structure in Canada to make it reasonable to invest in those start up enterprises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You also need people that take risks, which is definitely not a Canadian trait. There is the telltale #1 tactic of talking to the government among others. Folks in the valley or Boston don&#8217;t talk to the government &#8211; they just do stuff.</p>
<p>  Toronto may be #3 in people &#8220;working in information and communications&#8221;, which amazes me, but that isn&#8217;t the number of people who start and work in startups. That requires a very different mentality. As for world class universities, you are comparing the U of T to Stanford, MIT, and Harvard.</p>
<p>  You need to change the fundamental attitudes of people to make them into entrepreneurs rather than workers, and then change the tax structure in Canada to make it reasonable to invest in those start up enterprises.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 16:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or you could just read the bajillion academic research papers published on the subject, many of which are actually somewhat practical and less academic than the average academic paper. Waterloo&#039;s Institute of Innovation research has some of their research &lt;a href=&quot;http://iir.uwaterloo.ca/paper%20series/Xu%20et%20al%20(2002)-High%20Tech%20Cluster%20Evolution.pdf&quot;      rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;online&lt;/a&gt;. Or another &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.utoronto.ca/isrn/documents/KW%20ICT%20cluster%20paper_ISRN.pdf&quot;      rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;paper &lt;/a&gt;from U of T.

  And ok, so they&#039;re actually pretty dry and academic. My point is just that there are a lot of people who study this cluster growth issue. I mean, who doesn&#039;t want to be the next Silicon valley? If it was easy or obvious, everyone would do it. You omit historical factors, like the presence of the first semiconductor companies, which seeded the explosion in tech companies and the large number of defense contractors laid off in the area at the end of the cold war. And let&#039;s be blunt: the weather in the bay area doesn&#039;t hurt. Toronto&#039;s weather, well, it can hurt at times.

  And are the ICT Toronto people the same as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trra.ca/index.asp&quot;      rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TRRA&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or you could just read the bajillion academic research papers published on the subject, many of which are actually somewhat practical and less academic than the average academic paper. Waterloo&#8217;s Institute of Innovation research has some of their research <a href="http://iir.uwaterloo.ca/paper%20series/Xu%20et%20al%20(2002)-High%20Tech%20Cluster%20Evolution.pdf"      rel="nofollow">online</a>. Or another <a href="http://www.utoronto.ca/isrn/documents/KW%20ICT%20cluster%20paper_ISRN.pdf"      rel="nofollow">paper </a>from U of T.</p>
<p>  And ok, so they&#8217;re actually pretty dry and academic. My point is just that there are a lot of people who study this cluster growth issue. I mean, who doesn&#8217;t want to be the next Silicon valley? If it was easy or obvious, everyone would do it. You omit historical factors, like the presence of the first semiconductor companies, which seeded the explosion in tech companies and the large number of defense contractors laid off in the area at the end of the cold war. And let&#8217;s be blunt: the weather in the bay area doesn&#8217;t hurt. Toronto&#8217;s weather, well, it can hurt at times.</p>
<p>  And are the ICT Toronto people the same as the <a href="http://www.trra.ca/index.asp"      rel="nofollow">TRRA</a>?</p>
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