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	<title>Comments on: When Craigslist Beat the Toronto Star Classifieds</title>
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		<title>By: &#187; Craigslist &#8220;Casual Encounters&#8221; Ads in the Republican and Democratic National Convention Cities &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/07/26/when-craigslist-beat-the-toronto-star-classifieds/#comment-15318</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Craigslist &#8220;Casual Encounters&#8221; Ads in the Republican and Democratic National Convention Cities &#187; The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century : Joey deVilla&#8217;s Personal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] because in many cases, Craigslist gives you more bang for the buck (for my own examples, see When Craigslist Beat the Toronto Star Classifieds and A Craigslist Wedding). It doesn&#8217;t cost any money to read Craigslist; in fact, in most [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] because in many cases, Craigslist gives you more bang for the buck (for my own examples, see When Craigslist Beat the Toronto Star Classifieds and A Craigslist Wedding). It doesn&#8217;t cost any money to read Craigslist; in fact, in most [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joey deVilla</title>
		<link>http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/07/26/when-craigslist-beat-the-toronto-star-classifieds/#comment-10919</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey deVilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@John Hancock:&lt;/strong&gt; I don't think it's a matter of being cheap so much as being cost-effective. Given two advertising mediums, where one is cheaper but highly-read by your target demographic and where the other is more expensive and not as highly-read by your target demographic, go with the former. 

If the situation were such that the cheap medium has less reach into the target demographic and the more expensive one have a greater reach, then yes, the latter is the better choice.

In the end, this story was about my particular case, which was that Craigslist was the better-performing advertising vehicle. It's not about being cheap, it's about getting the most bang for my buck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@John Hancock:</strong> I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a matter of being cheap so much as being cost-effective. Given two advertising mediums, where one is cheaper but highly-read by your target demographic and where the other is more expensive and not as highly-read by your target demographic, go with the former. </p>
<p>If the situation were such that the cheap medium has less reach into the target demographic and the more expensive one have a greater reach, then yes, the latter is the better choice.</p>
<p>In the end, this story was about my particular case, which was that Craigslist was the better-performing advertising vehicle. It&#8217;s not about being cheap, it&#8217;s about getting the most bang for my buck.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hancock</title>
		<link>http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/07/26/when-craigslist-beat-the-toronto-star-classifieds/#comment-10918</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hancock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it comes down to, who reads what. 
People who generally only read Star Classifieds aren't on craigslist. 

People who use craiglist are also using the paper also. 

The older the generation, the higher the tendency to not to use the internet. Its demographics, and factual!!

I think, the smartest strategy (depending on the time constraints you have to rent/sell) you should always cover both bases, to reduce risk.

I have just had different responses for both.
My car didn't sell in craigslist but sold in the Star. 
I have rented out a few rental units faster on craigslist then the star (But rented the more pricier ones quicker on the star).

In the end it depends on the demographic, the market and the particular offering at the time.

So - why not just to both? Have we gotten that cheap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it comes down to, who reads what.<br />
People who generally only read Star Classifieds aren&#8217;t on craigslist. </p>
<p>People who use craiglist are also using the paper also. </p>
<p>The older the generation, the higher the tendency to not to use the internet. Its demographics, and factual!!</p>
<p>I think, the smartest strategy (depending on the time constraints you have to rent/sell) you should always cover both bases, to reduce risk.</p>
<p>I have just had different responses for both.<br />
My car didn&#8217;t sell in craigslist but sold in the Star.<br />
I have rented out a few rental units faster on craigslist then the star (But rented the more pricier ones quicker on the star).</p>
<p>In the end it depends on the demographic, the market and the particular offering at the time.</p>
<p>So - why not just to both? Have we gotten that cheap?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now there are more to list

like http://toronto.khrido.com and many more ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now there are more to list</p>
<p>like <a href="http://toronto.khrido.com" rel="nofollow">http://toronto.khrido.com</a> and many more &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/07/26/when-craigslist-beat-the-toronto-star-classifieds/#comment-6203</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 12:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.AdsToronto.com"   rel="nofollow"&gt;AdsToronto&lt;/a&gt; is going to beat CraigsList soon for online classifieds in Toronto. They have a cute site and is focused only in Toronto. They have a great marketing campaign and even their job category is free now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.AdsToronto.com"   rel="nofollow">AdsToronto</a> is going to beat CraigsList soon for online classifieds in Toronto. They have a cute site and is focused only in Toronto. They have a great marketing campaign and even their job category is free now.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehehe.  They didn't even bother to try to hide they were pimping their own site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehehe.  They didn&#8217;t even bother to try to hide they were pimping their own site.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/07/26/when-craigslist-beat-the-toronto-star-classifieds/#comment-6194</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find using http://toronto.eclassifieds4u.com very effective. It has a very user friendly interface and is easy to find stuff in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find using <a href="http://toronto.eclassifieds4u.com" rel="nofollow">http://toronto.eclassifieds4u.com</a> very effective. It has a very user friendly interface and is easy to find stuff in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/07/26/when-craigslist-beat-the-toronto-star-classifieds/#comment-6201</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like &lt;a href="http://www.torontopost.biz"   rel="nofollow"&gt;http://torontopost.biz&lt;/a&gt; specially about pets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like <a href="http://www.torontopost.biz"   rel="nofollow">http://torontopost.biz</a> specially about pets.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/07/26/when-craigslist-beat-the-toronto-star-classifieds/#comment-6202</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found a very useful resource is the &lt;a href="http://toronto.ontariotenants.ca/"   rel="nofollow"&gt;Toronto apartments for rent&lt;/a&gt; page of the &lt;a href="http://www.ontariotenants.ca/"   rel="nofollow"&gt;Ontario Tenant Rights&lt;/a&gt; website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found a very useful resource is the <a href="http://toronto.ontariotenants.ca/"   rel="nofollow">Toronto apartments for rent</a> page of the <a href="http://www.ontariotenants.ca/"   rel="nofollow">Ontario Tenant Rights</a> website.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard some good things about the &lt;a href="http://www.rentershotline.ca"     rel="nofollow"&gt;Renters Hotline&lt;/a&gt; as well - http://www.rentershotline.ca .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard some good things about the <a href="http://www.rentershotline.ca"     rel="nofollow">Renters Hotline</a> as well - <a href="http://www.rentershotline.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.rentershotline.ca</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Craigslist working nicely with Google Maps now - http://www.housingmaps.com/ I can't see using anything else. Did your listing actually appear in the maps one or is that different??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Craigslist working nicely with Google Maps now - <a href="http://www.housingmaps.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.housingmaps.com/</a> I can&#8217;t see using anything else. Did your listing actually appear in the maps one or is that different??</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've heard recommendatiosn for ViewIt as well. In the end, J. the landlord and I decided that we'd take one for-pay avenue and one free avenue, and the for-pay avenue he chose was the &lt;em&gt;Star&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard recommendatiosn for ViewIt as well. In the end, J. the landlord and I decided that we&#8217;d take one for-pay avenue and one free avenue, and the for-pay avenue he chose was the <em>Star</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the experience will vary depending on circumstances such as:&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The effectiveness of the local newspaper. The odds are that the newspaper's classifieds section will be stronger if it's not part of a chain and running a lot of syndicated material, but instead has a strong local feel.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The concentration of university/college/community college students in the area. These are the typical Craigslist "early adopters".&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the experience will vary depending on circumstances such as:
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<li>The effectiveness of the local newspaper. The odds are that the newspaper&#8217;s classifieds section will be stronger if it&#8217;s not part of a chain and running a lot of syndicated material, but instead has a strong local feel.</li>
<li>The concentration of university/college/community college students in the area. These are the typical Craigslist &#8220;early adopters&#8221;.</li>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found my apartment with viewit, but found excellent roommates with craigslist. Found more people that shared common interests and personality with craigslist. Star is a scattershot, craigslist was a proper advertisement. Wouldn't hesitate to use it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found my apartment with viewit, but found excellent roommates with craigslist. Found more people that shared common interests and personality with craigslist. Star is a scattershot, craigslist was a proper advertisement. Wouldn&#8217;t hesitate to use it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard good things about http://www.viewit.ca/ from someone who owns a few rental units.

  Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard good things about <a href="http://www.viewit.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://www.viewit.ca/</a> from someone who owns a few rental units.</p>
<p>  Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But would the experience in Toronto also hold fast in smaller cities? Good observations.

  -&lt;a href="http://oemperor.blogspot.com/"  rel="nofollow"&gt;OE&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But would the experience in Toronto also hold fast in smaller cities? Good observations.</p>
<p>  -<a href="http://oemperor.blogspot.com/"  rel="nofollow">OE</a></p>
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