Comments on: Accordion City Day, Part 4: The Subway That Could Be http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/ Joey deVilla's Personal Blog Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:17:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1-alpha-10188 hourly 1 By: Leif Harmsen http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-11671 Leif Harmsen Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:25:44 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-11671 check out http://harmsen.net/projects_ttc.html check out http://harmsen.net/projects_ttc.html

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-5018 Anonymous Sun, 27 Feb 2005 03:47:57 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-5018 An extension of the Yonge-University line north would be great (at least up to Steeles on the Yonge line) but further north, up in Richmond Hill & Markham, most people depend on cars to get around because everything is so spaced out. Go suburbia. Hooray for the dream subway map! An extension of the Yonge-University line north would be great (at least up to Steeles on the Yonge line) but further north, up in Richmond Hill & Markham, most people depend on cars to get around because everything is so spaced out. Go suburbia.

Hooray for the dream subway map!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-5016 Anonymous Sat, 26 Feb 2005 23:55:49 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-5016 The System should be changed. Instead of a "one size fits all" in regards to the pricing of the trips they should charge them by distance / time as it is done pretty much everywhere in europe. In that case, you would pay for your monthly pass according to the "zones" you are treavelling through, if you go further you buy additional tickets. Where I grew up they started with tickets for ~1.25 DM (60 Eurocents) for three stops, and then more if you needed to go further. The End result: The system had more cash and actually could see exactly which lines were the most popular and add the required capacity. The System should be changed.

Instead of a “one size fits all” in regards to the pricing of the trips they should charge them by distance / time as it is done pretty much everywhere in europe.

In that case, you would pay for your monthly pass according to the “zones” you are treavelling through, if you go further you buy additional tickets.

Where I grew up they started with tickets for ~1.25 DM (60 Eurocents) for three stops, and then more if you needed to go further.

The End result: The system had more cash and actually could see exactly which lines were the most popular and add the required capacity.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-5017 Anonymous Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:01:49 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-5017 Can't let this go without mentioning that the Yonge line should be expanded North, where a great deal of traffic is coming from. I'd take it up to Steeles, John, possibly Highway #7. You should see what the the major North/South corridors are like in Accordion City's perma-rush hour. Can’t let this go without mentioning that the Yonge line should be expanded North, where a great deal of traffic is coming from. I’d take it up to Steeles, John, possibly Highway #7. You should see what the the major North/South corridors are like in Accordion City’s perma-rush hour.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-5015 Anonymous Sat, 26 Feb 2005 05:34:17 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-5015 Nice dream, however fares are high enough now! I can't imagine paying more for the TTC then my GO pass. As for the government making money off taxi rides to the airport... certainly not in Toronto? All the taxi rides I've had have been flat rate off the books cash for the cabby. You think he's claiming that fare? Think again. Nice dream, however fares are high enough now! I can’t imagine paying more for the TTC then my GO pass.

As for the government making money off taxi rides to the airport… certainly not in Toronto? All the taxi rides I’ve had have been flat rate off the books cash for the cabby. You think he’s claiming that fare? Think again.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-5014 Anonymous Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:35:49 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-5014 You'll never get a subway stop at the airport, because the government (don't remember which branch, probably Trans Canada) makes money off of each taxi cab ride. <em>All</em> those taxi rides bring in a lot of cha-ching. They won't make nearly as much from the subway, and worse, it'll <em>cost</em> them to create the subway. Government giving up a source of income? Look what happened to the 'temporary' income tax and gas tax. You’ll never get a subway stop at the airport, because the government (don’t remember which branch, probably Trans Canada) makes money off of each taxi cab ride. All those taxi rides bring in a lot of cha-ching. They won’t make nearly as much from the subway, and worse, it’ll cost them to create the subway.

Government giving up a source of income? Look what happened to the ‘temporary’ income tax and gas tax.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-5013 Anonymous Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:07:38 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-5013 These maps are exceedingly fun to fantasize about, but they are dangerous in that they contribute to an impractical "big project" only mindset to improving transit. Sure, subway lines are sexier than proletarian bus routes. But you could improve the heck out of a lot of bus routes for the crazy amount of money that it would cost to, say, finish off the sheppard line that extra few klicks. These maps are exceedingly fun to fantasize about, but they are dangerous in that they contribute to an impractical “big project” only mindset to improving transit. Sure, subway lines are sexier than proletarian bus routes. But you could improve the heck out of a lot of bus routes for the crazy amount of money that it would cost to, say, finish off the sheppard line that extra few klicks.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-5012 Anonymous Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:10:37 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-5012 As an east-ender, I would very much like to see the red line (the Don Mills extension to the Spadina line) and the blue line (Eglinton). That would solve a whole lot of travel issues, personally. But ideally, all of it would be spiffy-keen; I'm sure a case could be made for each of these routes, in terms of high-density areas where folks are heavily reliant on buses. --Ani As an east-ender, I would very much like to see the red line (the Don Mills extension to the Spadina line) and the blue line (Eglinton). That would solve a whole lot of travel issues, personally. But ideally, all of it would be spiffy-keen; I’m sure a case could be made for each of these routes, in terms of high-density areas where folks are heavily reliant on buses.

–Ani

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-5011 Anonymous Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:53:15 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-5011 Probably way more. The Sheppard Line -- a mere 6 stops and 7km extending east from Sheppard Station cost <a href="http://www.railwaygazette.com/2003/031-cty1.asp" rel="nofollow">just shy of CDN$1 billion</a>. Probably way more. The Sheppard Line — a mere 6 stops and 7km extending east from Sheppard Station cost just shy of CDN$1 billion.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-5010 Anonymous Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:10:44 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-5010 I would love that top purple line too.. or at least a connection from the Bloor line to Kipling. But since I moved away.... I am just more curious what such an ambitious project would cost. I would bet around a billion dollars. I would love that top purple line too.. or at least a connection from the Bloor line to Kipling.

But since I moved away…. I am just more curious what such an ambitious project would cost. I would bet around a billion dollars.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-5009 Anonymous Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:05:19 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-5009 Eglinton West to York Centre is the busiest transportation route in the city, so finishing that line (the tail tracks were built) makes sense. Also, there are a few logical stops missing from the map such as Willowdale between Sheppard and Bayview. Eglinton West to York Centre is the busiest transportation route in the city, so finishing that line (the tail tracks were built) makes sense. Also, there are a few logical stops missing from the map such as Willowdale between Sheppard and Bayview.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-5008 Anonymous Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:30:50 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-5008 As I said in my post it would be great to have a subway along Sheppard the whole way and also along Eglinton. The Eglinton buses are always packed and if you want to go from one end to the other (as I do everyday) you have to switch at the Eglinton subway station. As I said in my post it would be great to have a subway along Sheppard the whole way and also along Eglinton. The Eglinton buses are always packed and if you want to go from one end to the other (as I do everyday) you have to switch at the Eglinton subway station.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/comment-page-1/#comment-5007 Anonymous Fri, 25 Feb 2005 04:43:33 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2005/02/25/accordion-city-day-part-4-the-subway-that-could-be/#comment-5007 What we have is inadequate. Then there's the dream. Then there's what is realistic in the near future. http://www.kbcafe.com/iBLOGthere4iM/?guid=20050210120132 Randy Charles Morin http://www.kbcafe.com What we have is inadequate. Then there’s the dream. Then there’s what is realistic in the near future.

http://www.kbcafe.com/iBLOGthere4iM/?guid=20050210120132

Randy Charles Morin

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