Comments on: They really should make some kind of objectivist repellant http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/ Joey deVilla's Personal Blog Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:09:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2869 Anonymous Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:44:42 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2869 Here is <a href="http://www.tracyfineart.com/blog/archives/2004_12.html#000374" rel="nofollow">the very same message</a>, but with a cheery painting at the end. I'm not sure what your objection to Mr. Peikoff's message is. He speaks in favor of celebrating accomplishments and pleasure, and speaks against assumed guilt. Giving to individuals and causes you value is a joy. Giving of yourself because some sacrificial obligation is demanded or assumed is horrible. Given the choice, I'll take the religionist or the nihilist repellant over the Objectivist repellant. Here is the very same message, but with a cheery painting at the end.

I’m not sure what your objection to Mr. Peikoff’s message is. He speaks in favor of celebrating accomplishments and pleasure, and speaks against assumed guilt. Giving to individuals and causes you value is a joy. Giving of yourself because some sacrificial obligation is demanded or assumed is horrible.

Given the choice, I’ll take the religionist or the nihilist repellant over the Objectivist repellant.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2864 Anonymous Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:18:41 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2864 Oh yes. I'm doing some prep work now. The fireworks should be fun. :) Oh yes. I’m doing some prep work now. The fireworks should be fun. :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2868 Anonymous Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:17:19 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2868 And there, in a nutshell, is most of my problem with Objectivism and Neo-Objectivism - too many of their practitioners have never managed to climb out of the sand box. And there, in a nutshell, is most of my problem with Objectivism and Neo-Objectivism - too many of their practitioners have never managed to climb out of the sand box.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2867 Anonymous Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:52:34 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2867 Part of it is simply culutural: I'm Filipino by descent, and the Christmas/New Year's holiday span is a bigger deal there than it is here in North America. About two-thirds of the country gets two weeks off around that time (making traffic a nightmare), and the season is punctuated by visits to just about every relative you have for a large festive meal. To me, it's not about the <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=benjamins&f=1" rel="nofollow">Benjamins</a>, but about getting together with Cousin Benjamin and the rest of the clan. Family, not <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=filthy+lucre" rel="nofollow">filthy lucre</a>. The other part -- the-non-religious-non-cultural everybody-can-get-behind-me-on-this-one objection (hah!) that I have to Peikoff's essay <em>is</em> that sneering towards geniality and being charitable that really gets my goat. It's mean-spirited, selfish toddler thinking: mine, mine, MINE!. Once again, it's a personal thing, but it really grates against my sensibilties -- whenever possible, I do try to share. I'll probably write a little more on this in a later blog entry. Part of it is simply culutural: I’m Filipino by descent, and the Christmas/New Year’s holiday span is a bigger deal there than it is here in North America. About two-thirds of the country gets two weeks off around that time (making traffic a nightmare), and the season is punctuated by visits to just about every relative you have for a large festive meal. To me, it’s not about the Benjamins, but about getting together with Cousin Benjamin and the rest of the clan. Family, not filthy lucre.

The other part — the-non-religious-non-cultural everybody-can-get-behind-me-on-this-one objection (hah!) that I have to Peikoff’s essay is that sneering towards geniality and being charitable that really gets my goat. It’s mean-spirited, selfish toddler thinking: mine, mine, MINE!. Once again, it’s a personal thing, but it really grates against my sensibilties — whenever possible, I do try to share.

I’ll probably write a little more on this in a later blog entry.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2866 Anonymous Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:49:54 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2866 <p>I read the whole Peikoff article and rather liked it. Which part of it is so offensive to you guys? <p>I guess this means I'm a closet Objectivist, since I didn't see anything objectionable about it. <p>Well, that's not entirely true. On reconsideration, I noticed some defensive sneering about the notion of being nice or charitable. I didn't like that bit. But it didn't seem like the most prominent part to me. Maybe this means I'm accustomed to Objectivists and don't notice those bits so much anymore. <p>--Zooko I read the whole Peikoff article and rather liked it. Which part of it is so offensive to you guys?

I guess this means I’m a closet Objectivist, since I didn’t see anything objectionable about it.

Well, that’s not entirely true. On reconsideration, I noticed some defensive sneering about the notion of being nice or charitable. I didn’t like that bit. But it didn’t seem like the most prominent part to me. Maybe this means I’m accustomed to Objectivists and don’t notice those bits so much anymore.

–Zooko

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2863 Anonymous Tue, 09 Dec 2003 02:10:43 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2863 Liss, you'll tell us where we can find this debate, won't you? My curiosity has been piqued. Liss, you’ll tell us where we can find this debate, won’t you? My curiosity has been piqued.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2865 Anonymous Mon, 08 Dec 2003 22:11:42 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2865 Joey, they do. It even comes in various calibres. Joey, they do. It even comes in various calibres.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2862 Anonymous Mon, 08 Dec 2003 20:33:13 +0000 http://www.joeydevilla.com/2003/12/08/they-really-should-make-some-kind-of-objectivist-repellant/#comment-2862 *rubs hands together gleefully* I know just who to use this in an online debate with. Whee! Objectivist repellent...mmmmm.... *rubs hands together gleefully* I know just who to use this in an online debate with. Whee!

Objectivist repellent…mmmmm….

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